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kaaatie ([personal profile] kaaatie) wrote2006-08-03 10:50 pm

Rodney Darcy

Apologies to Mr Colin Firth and to David Hewlett, but I had to do it!



Full manip behind the cut!



I think this is a sign that I need some sleep!

[identity profile] twincy.livejournal.com 2006-08-03 02:18 pm (UTC)(link)
I can't decide if I really really *want* someone to write the John-and-Rodney-are-Lizzie-and-Darcy AU, or if I really really don't.

But of course, it is a truth universally acknowledged that two good things combined make one exceptionally good thing. That is to say: manip guh. I like.

[identity profile] linaerys.livejournal.com 2006-08-03 02:22 pm (UTC)(link)
That is a tempting AU. But how to do it justice?

Unfortunately it is also a truth universally scknowledged that two good things combined poorly is terrible.
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[identity profile] kaaatie.livejournal.com 2006-08-03 02:26 pm (UTC)(link)
It could be a great AU! If you think about it Rodney does have a lot of similarities to Mr Darcy - they both come across incredibly arrogant, proud and disagreeable, but they're actually good people! :)

By the way, I love that you have a princess bride quote on your icon!

[identity profile] twincy.livejournal.com 2006-08-03 03:31 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes, and yes.

I don't know, the casting could be difficult. I mean, obviously, McKay is Darcy; and because yay, OTP, John has to be Lizzie -- although he's much better suited to be Wickham -- but then what?

God, it sounds like fun though. I'd give it a try if I wasn't so reluctant to meddle with Ms Austen's stories.

[identity profile] linaerys.livejournal.com 2006-08-03 03:41 pm (UTC)(link)
And as much as I love Liz and Darcy, the secondary characters are so wonderful as well. If it were a total crack AU you could make Lucius and his 'erb Wickham. Mr. Collins?

(OMG, Dr. Weir could be Mr. Collins and Zelenka is Charlotte Lucas *sporfle*)

And who do you make Bingley and Jane? All the Bennet family?

I think what you'd have to do is make it a present-day AU, and cut most of the subplots beyond the Elizabeth/Darcy. Although Sam could fill in for Caroline Bingley, maybe. Or maybe Kavanagh is such a dick because he wants Rodney all to himself. Make John more of a grunt than he is, or maybe a lab tech, so Rodney can look down on his education, while still thinking he can rise above it?

[identity profile] twincy.livejournal.com 2006-08-03 03:51 pm (UTC)(link)
But then it is all so complicated.

There really are a ridiculous amount of subplots, aren't there? And I'm sure if you're really determined, you can find a SGA counterpart for every character and make it work to some extent...

... but then there's still the gay, and the 1800 not being all so happy about the gay. So yes, it's either rip it completely out of its context and make it present day -- but then you'd have to stay *really* close to the original story (apart from setting, obviously) to make it resemble P&P even a little bit. Almost like Bridget Jones' Diary, only gay.

I think it'd work much better if John actually were Wickham (or, erm, Daniel Cleaver). He's a believable asshole, and you'd have all the wonderful angry tension between him and Rodney (Darcy). And then you could swing it the illicit love affair way, and you wouldn't have to pull it out of the 1800s, but it really wouldn't be very P&Py anymore.

See? Complicated.

[identity profile] linaerys.livejournal.com 2006-08-03 03:58 pm (UTC)(link)
[livejournal.com profile] danamaree had a good idea below. Make John into Bingley and ship those two, but still have a Lizzie be someone else. I'm thinking Sam or Teyla.

But yeah, too many subplots.

[identity profile] twincy.livejournal.com 2006-08-03 04:06 pm (UTC)(link)
But John as Mr Happy Bouncy The World Is a Wonderful Place Bingley?
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[identity profile] danamaree.livejournal.com 2006-08-03 04:30 pm (UTC)(link)
I can see John as that, because does come across as very charming, and happy. Underneath not so much. But it's not such a stretch.

OK, in a AU world, where anything can be worked out, it's not a stretch ;)
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[identity profile] danamaree.livejournal.com 2006-08-03 04:36 pm (UTC)(link)
.. but then there's still the gay, and the 1800 not being all so happy about the gay.

Ah, that's why marriage of conveniences are a great thing! Way to keep the community from the scandal, and since romantic friendship between girls were considered all right, and the manly men went off hunting together up on the moors and the abandoned hunting lodg and spent time locked up in the study (or whatever) discussing very important manly things, it's not like they didn't have lots of opportunity (especially if you pay the servants well).

[identity profile] twincy.livejournal.com 2006-08-03 07:09 pm (UTC)(link)
...

okay, now I want to write *that*. Except maybe only loosely inspired by Austen. Because that whole, ahem, "hunting" on the moor thing? Oh, delicious.

Damn you!
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[identity profile] danamaree.livejournal.com 2006-08-03 03:40 pm (UTC)(link)
It's been yonks since I read that book, but if Rodney is Darcy, I probably see John as ...maybe Bingly (it was Bingly wasn't it, the guy he was friends with).

I even shipped them when I was a teenager. But I still adored Lizzie.

[identity profile] linaerys.livejournal.com 2006-08-03 03:57 pm (UTC)(link)
I kind of like that, although then I'd have to make Teyla into Elizabeth Bennett, and then maybe make them have a threesome for all time. Hmmmm, that could work.

Or maybe Sam could be Lizzie Bennett? Hmmm. Still ending with a threesome *g*

[identity profile] linaerys.livejournal.com 2006-08-03 03:58 pm (UTC)(link)
Also, I now want Darcy/Bingley slash, darn you.

[identity profile] twincy.livejournal.com 2006-08-03 04:08 pm (UTC)(link)
Dude! My thoughts exactly. And my love for Darcy/Lizzie was so pure and unspoilt. Damn you, livejournal!
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[identity profile] danamaree.livejournal.com 2006-08-03 04:27 pm (UTC)(link)
Thanks, now you make me want it. As I said, it's been ages since I read the book, but Darcy was so incredibly jealous and possessive of Bingly.

And gee...wow, Rodney is also incredibly jealous. Who'd have thought ;)

I can see Sam and Teyla as Lizzie and her beloved sister Jane.
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[identity profile] kaaatie.livejournal.com 2006-08-04 02:42 am (UTC)(link)
Oh wow! Now that I think about it Sam is so good for Lizzie. The tension between Sam and Rodney is quite similar to the tension between Lizzy and Darcy ...

And John as Bingley works for me too. John comes across in a "Bingley sort of way" when you first meet him --- he's very easy-going, flirty and happy - and although John seems to have more hidden depths than Bingley, the role still matches.

I can also see Teyla as Jane - She's not incredibly smart from an academic perspective, but she's a lot wiser than you'd first think, and she's very sweet and kind.

And the relationship between John and Rodney does have a lot of similarities to the relationship between Bingley and Darcy... I think someone needs to write this! :D
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[identity profile] kaaatie.livejournal.com 2006-08-03 02:23 pm (UTC)(link)
Hee! I agree - that AU could be great, or it could just be bad... but the more I think about it, the more I want to read it! :)

*nods* Yep, the hotness of David Hewlett + the hotness of Mr Darcy = more hotness! Glad you liked the manip! :D

[identity profile] twincy.livejournal.com 2006-08-03 03:28 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes- while I can see McKay as Darcy, I'm not sure John has a Lizzie in him. (He'd make a wonderful Wickham, though.)

It'd be tricky, but if done correctly, it could be awesome. Just think about the proposal: McKay trying to communicate his feelings but only succeeding to insult John in any way possible? Sounds about in character ;).